Andy Taylor
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- May 30, 2011 at 11:48 pm #31088
[quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=20723]
take a look at a lot of compressor aftercooler units ,they are very much the same thing as intercoolers and oil coolers on cars [/quote]
Agreed, they [i]look[/i] very similar, but I’d like to see one pressure tested to over 10 bar before I’d use one. Car intercoolers rarely go more than 2-3 bar, so there’s a wide margin of difference. I’m not saying it wouldn’t work, but safety first and all that 😉
[quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=20723]i would also say that to configure copper pipe to achieve the same lengths and surface area as those involved with a average domestic radiator wouild be a plumbers nightmare especialy a double panel convector, [b]an old rad would also be financialy more viable[/b] ,it could also be dropped into a vat of cold water for added effect [/quote]
We’re agreed on that then.
[quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=20723]im pretty sure my son who is gas safe registered said [b]they should be capable of some 10 BAR plus[/b] ,however if fitted post diaphragm regulator you would not require any more than 4CFM for spraying purposes anyway ,as the fitting will be standard BSP and airline compatable it would be an easy enough excersize[/quote]
Awesome, it gets better.
I need a lot more than 4 CFM (the supernova needs ~12.5 :blink: ), but a domestic rad does sound like it will work well, as I said above. Especially now that I know they’ll take the pressure.
May 30, 2011 at 7:49 pm #31081I’m actually considering something like the Sealey Fast Fit Air Supply System.
I know of a few people that have used it, and have seen two systems installed and it looks ideal. The push-fit connectors are designed for use with their own nylon pipe, but that can quite easily be substituted for copper. Sealey only offer 15 or 22mm O/D piping, but a similar system includes 28mm O/D too. Those are the three most popular sizes for copper tube over here, which is handy 😉
The main advantage for me is that these systems can be taken apart and reconfigured easily. Ideal since there may be a change of premises coming up, and they can easily be extended/expanded as the need arises. It also includes some very handy water trap Tee pieces, which allow air to pass down the supply drop legs, but not water.
[url=http://www.toolbox.co.uk/link/1/AIR%20RING%20MAIN%20SYSTEM.pdf]LINK[/url]
May 30, 2011 at 2:50 pm #31078Ended up buying a second hand one of these:
[img]http://www.abac-support.co.uk/individualmodels/Beltdrive/B741_24.jpg[/img]
Slow running two stage pump with a 270 litre tank. 10 HP motor, with an FAD of 33 CFM
The air is cooled between the stages, then again afterwards before entering the tank, so ought to help with the CAH issues a bit.
http://www.abac-support.co.uk/individualmodels/Beltdrive/0070NS928,%20B741_270.htm
Just need to get it installed and sort out the plumbing :rock
May 28, 2011 at 10:08 am #31052[quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=20664]coast airbrush will match any price
along with the revolution and eclipse lines iwata now do a budget intro brush the Neo for $49.95 USD
http://www.coastairbrush.com/products.asp?cat=744%5B/quote%5D
I’ve just realised that you’re from the UK too mate (well, almost 😉 😆 ). Do you tend to buy from coast airbrush, or somewhere over here?
May 28, 2011 at 10:02 am #31051Hmm.. I don’t know then Paul.
I deal with him on the DeBeer side, as that’s the paint scheme I have at work. He did say some time ago that they were restructuring the distribution for HOK. Sounds like that’s all gone tits up from what you’re saying.
He lives in my city and pops in quite regularly, so I’ll see what he’s got to say. To be honest I was hoping to blag some samples from him to learn with :whistle:
May 28, 2011 at 1:08 am #31037Yep, I’ve talked myself out of that option Jim. I can always put a 0.4 or 0.6 tip in my LPH80 for that kind of thing.
May 27, 2011 at 11:47 pm #31035Thanks again for the suggestions guys.
I’ve been looking into it a bit more, and am almost tempted by the TR1 & TR2 trigger type guns, as that’ll be more like what I’m used to, but I’m sure I can adapt quickly enough to a “proper” airbrush. Whether I have the artistic skills needed is a whole different ball game though! :rofl
Due to shipping and taxes, I might be better off sticking with a UK supplier, but up to now the cheapest Eclipse (HP-CS) I’ve found from an authorised dealer (that I’ve also used before)is £119 delivered. That’s about $194, so might need to do more shopping around..
May 27, 2011 at 11:02 pm #31033It must be a case of different strokes for different folks.
I’ve not used a 4000 RP myself Paul, but the guy who commented on it is the UK technical manager for HOK, and a avid Iwata fan like myself. He loves using my WS400, but had to admit that the Sata had a slight edge for clear (in his opinion), but nothing came close to Iwata for base.
When we slacken off a bit at work I’ll get my hands on a pair of 4000’s and try them for myself 😉
May 27, 2011 at 3:31 pm #31025Thanks Jim, that narrows it down a bit. There’s such a wide range I was still unsure which to go for.
Now to find a killer price on a revolution cs 😉
May 27, 2011 at 9:50 am #31013Cheers guys, I’ll have a look into those.
The Revolution range seems fairly easy to get hold of over here, so it might be one of those.
May 27, 2011 at 9:44 am #31012I’m in the love category then Paul.
I’ve had mine for about a year now, and don’t feel the need to change it for anything else, although I have been told that the Sata 4000 RP just about betters it for clear.
May 26, 2011 at 10:05 pm #30994Can I crash in and ask for a recommendation for a beginners airbrush?
Normally I’d buy the best equipment I can get, but since I don’t know whether I’ll take to airbrushing or not I’d rather start a bit lower on the scale and see how things go. So nothing top of the range, but something that I can use while learning, and won’t hold me back too much should I start to get a feel for it. A mid range kinda thing.
Oh, and I’m a die hard Iwata fan, but don’t let that influence your recommendations, lol.
Thanks,
Andy.May 22, 2011 at 6:46 pm #30974The 300 isn’t much smaller than a full size W/LPH400 really, whereas the LPH80 is almost toy like in appearance!
[IMG]http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn385/Duluxdude/Work/P1000566Large.jpg[/IMG]
The LPH80 is back right.
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