Andy Taylor
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He looks to be making hard work of that, especially on something so simple as white.
Hi Matt, and welcome :welc
There aren’t too many UK based regulars on here, so it’s nice to have another aboard. Whereabouts are you from? I’m in sunny Sheffield B)
I’ve never used that particular product (can’t seem to get SPI over here :(), but I can’t see a problem. The SATA 3000 puts out a lot of material for a 1.3 anyway, so is probably closer to many manufacturers 1.4’s.
[b]Jinx wrote:[/b]
[quote]Soooo, just to make sure. Does primer hurt paint guns at all or is that just people talking about something they dont have a clue about?[/quote]
I see no reason why primer would hurt your gun (as you put it). Whatever product you put through your gun will block it up if you don’t clean it right afterwards, and primer is no different. Just strip & clean it thoroughly like you have done, and all will be well 🙂I’ve never heard of anyone cleaning a gun with W&G though. I’m not saying it can’t be done, I just haven’t heard of it, and can see no advantage over what you’ve already used.
As with Jimmo, we have a gun washer because of the number of jobs we get through, but I can’t see the need for one if you’re only painting occasionally.
Ours is very similar to the one pictured below:
[img]http://www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/images/masterrandug5000.jpg[/img]
It’s double sided – one water, one solvent – with each side having a 5 gallon drum of fluid that recirculates for the main cleaning, then a smaller drum of fresh stuff for final rinsing. It can either be used in manual mode with the built in brushes, or just throw the gun in and set it on automatic. Ours also has two blow guns fitted to blast the last bits of cleaner out of the gun.
When I (eventually) give my guns a good clean, they go through the auto cycle first to remove the worst, then get stripped for a manual scrub, before a good rinse with the clean stuff.
We have a company come and clean/service it every 6 weeks, but I usually have to top up the solvent every week, then change it every 3.
Oh, and I’d definitely agree on the PPS system too. There is a bit of initial investment involved, but the benefits of a tidier working environment and much less cleaning far outweigh that in my opinion 🙂
Excellent gun isn’t it!
Did you get a 1.3 or 1.4? The one I have is a 1.3, but it isn’t quick enough for me, so I’m looking to get a 1.4 very soon. And I here what you’re saying about runs too – I’ve only managed one tiny one so far (in 100+ jobs) and I’ve been trying hard! :lol1
Great set up you’ve got there. I don’t even have a garage 🙁
Great vids as ever jimmo. I really must get around to doing some myself.
I see what you mean about the extra hose being a pain. Surely there’s a way to convert it to a single hose set up? I’ve used a SATA Vision in the past, and currently have a Wilson (very similar to the Vision, just cheaper), but find even those cumbersome and restrictive with a single hose. I can’t see what I’m doing well enough, and feel claustrophobic. I know I shouldn’t, but I just stick to a charcoal mask for most of my work and change it regularly.
[b]Papipab wrote:[/b]
[quote]I think my Ws400 aka supernova is coming in on tuesday I’ll write back on what i think of it[/quote]
Hope you like it as much as I like mine. It almost makes me look like a good painter :rofl[b]ryanbrown999 wrote:[/b]
[quote] I think he sleeps with an Iwata next to him at night. Hell as many cars as he paints in a day that thing may be attached to his arm at this point. 😛 [/quote]You’re not too far off as it happens – I bring them home with me every night rather than leave them at work :lol1
[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote] I have a W400 for my clear that I love, I don’t know what a WS is or if it’s the same but let me know what you think of it. [/quote]
The WS400,(a.k.a. Supernova) is the replacement for the W400. If you haven’t seen one, then you ought to – they really do look sweet (pininfarina styled them), and spray even better. If you like the W400, you’ll love the new WS 😉[b]Rods and Racing wrote:[/b]
[quote]We bought the DeVilbiss GTi Pro guns online from England, like Sata you gotta pay, but they work like a pro spraygun should. [/quote]
We get all the best guns over here 😉The new Pro range are one of the few guns I haven’t tried though. If I wasn’t so into my Iwata’s I’d give them a go, as the ‘old’ GTI’s are pretty much standard equipment for many over here, and I get on with them pretty well.
Hi there :welc
[b]MoCoke wrote:[/b]
[quote]
is it really that difficult to get paid? waiting 2 months for a check? [/quote]
If you’re lucky.
My missus used to do bodyshop admin, and from my own experience too, chasing 90 day old accounts isn’t out of the ordinary. They’ll hang on for as long as they possibly can before paying you. I mean, what are you going to do about it? Go and rip the paint off the car you repaired weeks ago? Refuse to do any more work for that insurance company? Doubtful, as they’ll always have others queueing up for their work. 🙂Think long and hard Neil. You’ll have to jump through hoops to get approval, and even then it isn’t really as lucrative as it used to be. You get screwed down on hours and labour rate, have to give discounts on parts so you don’t make a great deal that way, and an insurance company can blow you off without notice if a better deal comes along.
:welc Nice to see a few more Brits turning up on here B)
I’ve done a fair bit of onsite SMART myself in the past, but it’s much nicer to be working in a warm dry bodyshop. Especially at this time of year!