Jayson Munro
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- February 17, 2014 at 8:44 pm #45914
I don’t think so,a finishline isn’t even on the same page no matter what size tip you have.If you are using omni products most of them are medium solids so I would get a 1.4 but check with your paint manufacturer TDS sheets for whatever product you are using.The only way you will know is to try one out and compare for yourself.If you dont have a jobber willing to let you try one contact sata ,they will put you in contact with the right person.
February 9, 2014 at 7:42 am #45895I think you should just search the forums,nobody is going to compare all those guns for you as that would take forever.Like I said most of the other forums(not this one) are a bunch of hobbiests who really don’t have much spray time or experience,so take those opinions with a grain of salt.What I can tell you is that the lph models are hvlp and painfully slow as are the supernova ls versions.The ws 400 HD version is comparable to an Rp but im not sure if they are for sale in the states for compliance reasons.Seems you are having trouble making up your mind,I think the only way you will be able to is to try some guns before you buy.
February 8, 2014 at 9:39 pm #45893I cant comment on the super nova but I did have a w-400 LV for a couple of years that was a great gun,it was just too slow for me so I sold it.I have heard that the supernovas are quite slow and overpriced but the high delivery clear coat model is decent.Lots of guys do prefer the older models over the new super novas.One thing to keep in mind is myself or others can tell you what the best gun is but in the end its all up to you.If you like a certain model and are happy with the results thats all that matters in the end.It doesn’t matter if you get a first gen rp,3000 rp or a 4000 rp or a tekna with a 7e7 air cap any of these guns will spray metallics or any HS clear flawlessly.
February 7, 2014 at 10:35 am #45885Satas are tough and built to last but I have a couple of teknas that have survived 3 years of daily use.I have used my teknas 5-6 times a day that are torn down after each use to be cleaned and they still have their original parts and spray fine.
February 7, 2014 at 5:41 am #45880This is what we have used at the shop for the last 8 years..http://www.amazon.com/U-Pol-Weld-Copper-Primer-Aerosol/dp/B003TQ9NFK
I would rather leave a flange bare than use transtar…..Just sayin :whistle:February 6, 2014 at 10:36 am #45873I think you should demo a tekna,prolite and a sata rp and make your own decision based on what you like and what works for you.Any of these guns will do a good job of spraying base or clear.
February 6, 2014 at 5:44 am #45870I never really liked it,and last time I checked chrysler did not want any used on their vehicles due to contamination and crappy welds with poor penetration.In theory if you have two pieces of sheet metal ready to weld with zinc coating on them from the factory you do not need weld thru primer.I had better luck using epoxy or etch primer on bare metal flanges and always put the spotwelds back in the same spot.I preferd doing it that way instead of cleaning the whole flange to bare metal and then adding weld thru primer,it held up better against corrosion.Just my thoughts….
February 6, 2014 at 4:55 am #45867When you have mastered refinishing you will be able to control the spray gun to get the desired results,IF you can’t and you get runs and dry spray the gun is controling you.
What I mean is how fast does it take you to spray a coat of paint?Do you plod away covering a foot in 2 seconds or do you cover 1 foot in .5 seconds?Do you move your arm slow at a snails pace or fast like muhammed ali in his prime?Do you follow?If a gun puts out more material at such a fast rate you can’t keep up to it or spray properly you will have problems,not sure how else to explain it????? :unsure:February 6, 2014 at 4:36 am #45866I have done RR about a dozen times since last summer and each one has been different(trucks,edge’s,and the lincolns) I usually give it a coat of straight red oxide toner(sikkens AW 360) before I do my foundation coat,this saves time and gets the color closer.It only takes me 1-2.5 coats of foundation then 2 coats of mid coat then clear.The trick with tri-stages is staggering your blends so you don’t end up with a big dark line of pearl where you stop blending.You can even get away with a variant that is a little off.
For yellows that don’t cover start with white sealer or a ground coat of white,the extra 5 mins will save you 30 mins of booth time trying to get coverage.
Before a rep was kind enough to give me some field formulas I have used ford RZ a couple of times with great success.The standard variant isnt even close,and I have heard every manufacturer is having problems with this one,so if your not good on ya.February 5, 2014 at 10:14 am #45859[quote=”Zarifpour” post=34434]By fast and dangerous do you mean it will easily run if I am not careful?[/quote]
yesFebruary 5, 2014 at 9:55 am #45856RP stands for reduced pressure but will spray like an old school conventional gun(fast and dangerous for an inexperienced person) they have greater atomization.HVLP will save some paint but be slower and not atomize as well.You can get a Tekna for around $350 and the sata is closer to $600 I would suggest demoing some first before you buy one so you can get the feel for what you like.No matter what you pick it will be much better than an entry level gun like a finishline(tekna is a much better gun btw) Good luck
February 5, 2014 at 9:05 am #45852A finishline is a pretty slow gun,I would try a tekna with a 1.3 or a 1.4,that sounds like it might fit you best for now.
February 5, 2014 at 8:51 am #45850Well the speed you paint at will determine what kind of gun you need.If you are comfortable spraying fast an Rp would be ok,but if your not a fast sprayer a gun that pumps out lots of material will give you lots of runs.
February 5, 2014 at 8:27 am #45848There is no perfect gun for everyone you have to take into account what you are doing.Do you spray lots of completes,large jobs,or lots of spot/collision painting?Do you like to paint fast or slow or kind of a middle of the road sprayer?You also need to look at what kind of materials you are spraying.Sata rp’s are for guys who like to spray fast and get plenty of material on in a hurry,iwatas are slower with less fluid output.You also have to look at how much you want to spend.From what you have said a devilbiss tekna might fit your needs and not break the bank,with a little more details Im sure we could help you choose a gun that will fit your needs.
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