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Simpsons did it!
Statistically, the response from direct mailing is not good. If you hit anywhere near 10%, it’s a huge success. More likely, you might get in the 1-2% range. The ROI just isn’t really there.
[b]bondomerchant wrote:[/b]
[quote]ta be honest i almost single staged the little bugger but wanted ta experiment with that 15420 an boy oh boy i havent wanted ta single stage anything since just only on a real anal resto is where i would ss anything when ya gotta have that old;) toilet look like my old ford pick up;)[/quote]Single stage, then shoot a couple coats of clear over it – man does that look good. Lots of gloss, lots of depth… just not sure how well it’d hold up in the real world.
[b]bondomerchant wrote:[/b]
[quote]now if ya ask me about rage gold ya cant say i dont know what im talking about:P [/quote]Ever use the Rage Extreme?
[b]MG71 wrote:[/b]
[quote]we have been using the ez edger which works by folding one edge over and we apply it to the jamb with 3in green paper behind it.[/quote]I’ve sold a bunch of those, but none of my suppliers have them any more. I’m wondering if the product is discontinued or the company has gone out of business.
[b]bondomerchant wrote:[/b]
[quote]everytime i see your booth it makes me feel like im painting in a dirt floor garage with a couple wallmart box fans dinger:blush: :blush:[/quote]You mean to tell me you’re not?
[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote]I’ve taken quite a few paint courses, If they counted nobody told me!![/quote]You should check with your paint supplier.
http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/company/learning_center.cfm
I know from attending previous classes, there is some process *you* have to complete to get the points – something like wait 45, submit your certificate to I-Car & pay them some money – then you get your points.
[b]bondomerchant wrote:[/b]
[quote]why is a freind of mine that been painting for ever comes down ta my shop this week an does some framework on a mpv an i goes why dont ya go ahead an shoot it while ya got it here throws some 12 inch around the edges of what he is painting shoot everything with no bag on it an no overspray sticks i do mine spend 3 hrs taping everything tight wrap it up in the bag an end up with overspray on the car go figure:S :S[/quote]I can’t help but wonder what that would mean in English.:dry:
[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote]I’ve never had the chance to go to an I-Car course, I’d like to go. To simply answer your question I am not. How did you find the courses? I hear a lot of people complaining about them not being as beneficial as they once were. Did you get much out of them??[/quote]Haven’t you ever taken a class from your paint supplier? Some of those probably count for I-Car points.
I don’t think a web site is likely to be effective in driving customers to your shop. Based on my considerable computer & web experience, my experience with body shops and their customers, it’s my opinion a shop web site is best used for during and after the repair customer service.
There are sites you can use which allow customers to see their car as it progresses through the repair process. A shop not interesting in investing in the cost of participating is one of these programs could just as well do the same or similar on their own. I have one shop that just emails each customer a picture of their car at each stage of the repair.
A web site is also good for gathering information in the form of follow-up surveys. At the same time, you could solicit referrals by offering a spiff.
The one absolute truth of web sites, no matter the business, is they are very time consuming to maintain (or costly to pay someone to maintain), and you *have* to keep it up to date. An outdated web site is worse than having none at all. It presents a very poor image of your company.
I get a ton of calls from the yellow pages.
Yeah… the store has been very busy, but I’ve always been busy with a lot of other things too (some of them work related).
Every time I see the title of this thread, I think there must be a church somewhere where they worship rock damage.
I have, in the past, worked a four day work week. Three day weekends every week made it easier to go through your paycheck that much faster.
Then, we got busy… so you’d put in a few hours of overtime Monday through Thursday, working something like 12 hour days, then come in and do it on Friday & Saturday too. You’d make some damn good money, but you were too worn out to enjoy it.
[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote]We really just decided to go with BASF because it was what we’d been using, it was familiar and they offered a competitive contract. Basf vs S&W you gonna find their both stronger and weaker in different areas, which will probably be true comparing any manufacturers. One of the most important things I’ve always found was color match. I know that BASF is very strong in that department which is probably another big factor. They have had the color chips that were actually sprayed out for quite a while, I see S&W just launched that which will definitely boost their line.I’ve haven’t really sprayed S&W too much, I’ve just heard from others their color matching isn’t near as strong as BASF’s but that’s how they found it. I’m sure theirs many satisfied S&W users that will argue that.[/quote]
Jimmo, right out of the gate I have to say I think it’s cool as hell that we had some conversations here and that resulted in your shop giving SW the opportunity to present & demo our products. I can honestly say it would have been even cooler if you had made the switch, but I understand and respect the decision to stick with BASF. Change is difficult, and BASF does make a great product.
This forum, and others like it, allow us – from all over the world – to discuss our industry and our craft, share information, learn from people we’d not normally have the opportunity to even meet, and, on occasion, to even do a bit of bragging on our accomplishments.
Thanking for taking the time to invite me here.
Speaking specifically with color match – my experience mirrors your very comment that each product has different strengths and weaknesses. Speaking to painters using other paint lines, the most common thing I hear is that a given line seems to have issues in a certain color area. One painter I talked to had some issue with blacks in another paint line. Others talked about specific paint codes they have or had issues with in a competing paint line. One would hope these would not be constant, but rather change as each issue is identified.
One area, among many, in which I am very proud of Sherwin-Williams is the progress we have made these past few years, in identifying specific issues, and addressing them. We have come a very long way from the products bearing our label in the early 1990’s. I think the fact that you were impressed enough with the HPC15 to be compelled to look at the entire paint line speaks to that.
I sincerely appreciate that you gave us the opportunity to demo our products. Thank you.