1K Waterborne Glasurit Primer

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  • Anonymous
    May 29, 2008 at 6:27 am #10449

    Anyone used this before??? Its a 1K glasurit waterborne primer that is suitable for use over fillers..etc. I think someone even told me its direct to metal, but don’t quote me on that. It doesn’t sound right to me being a water product, but whatever. I’m gonna call my rep and see if its suitable for use under solvent basecoat, someone told me it was, again whatever.

    If anyone knows about this product, let me know the 411. I sound so cool.

    Anonymous
    May 29, 2008 at 8:39 am #10452

    haven’t seen a waterborne primer I like yet …..but…Iv’e only tried a couple. :blush: that left a bad enough taste in my mouth to last for a while.B)

    Anonymous
    May 30, 2008 at 6:39 am #10466

    I’ve got it coming in tommorow, it sounds really interesting. So apparently it can be topcoated with a solvent basecoat without a problem & it can be used direct to metal for small breakthroughs. I can just leave it in the gun with the tip soaking in water. I can’t believe they recommend a 1.9 tip (hvlp gravity)!! I’ll post my findings on this primer as it seems very interesting. Anyone who follows my posts will know I’m all for the low-voc and iso free products. Hopefully this will perform well.

    May 30, 2008 at 7:48 am #10467

    I’ve used the Glaso Waterborne primer for the past two years now… I don’t use it for everyday use, but as an alternative to using UV primer, or if I know the area I am priming is going to cause a wrinkling problem. I have had no real issues basecoating directly over the waterborne, and it is quick… Hold your gun off to the side of the panel, and blow air across the waterborne, not directly at it. When it turns dull, it’s dry B) Wet sand and then paint… Hope you like the waterborne B)

    Anonymous
    May 30, 2008 at 3:05 pm #10468

    thanks for the info. I like that feature too, they say it works as an isolator primer over poorly cured finishes. I noticed on the tech sheet it only has wet sanding recommendations, does this mean i cant dry sand.

    its odd the water base is the opposite!!

    May 30, 2008 at 3:47 pm #10469

    It can be dry sanded, but it tends to plug up the sand paper rather quickly with the finer grit papers (600-800).

    May 31, 2008 at 2:42 am #10472

    I am very confused….

    it is a waterborne primer…that needs to be wetsanded?

    I thought waterborne washed off with water?

    Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 3:14 am #10473

    Alright, I got it in today. I tried it on 2 jobs, heres what happened:

    1st job, small dent on the roof of a civic. my first impression was, wow. It lays down so flat, like zero orange peel…very impressive. Put on 2 coats and let it air dry over lunch. It blocked very well with 320, when i switched to the finer hand paper it seemed to clog a bit. I used the DA with some 500 just to see, and it seemed to work fine without clogging. I wetsanded it a bit to see what its all about and it is probably the way to go, cuts much better.

    second job, both box sides of gmc pickup with a bit of bodywork throughout it. It was also a used car which makes the best test subjects. Their was a bit of bare metal exposed and according to the TDS it would be ok. I think i put my first coat on a little to wet, a few spots got small fisheye’s. No big deal, after giving a good flash the second coat got rid of them. Blocked with 320, am going to finish it monday by watersanding with 600.

    This product seems like once its mastered, thats the only way for me. Super low voc, iso-free primer that can stay in the gun without cleaning after each job. It seems to good to be true! It is very forgiving I noticed when applyed wet over feathering, in the case of my box side, most solvent primers I used would have lifted it.

    The only slight downside is when they is a large bare metal area you need to apply an epoxy, basf’s epoxy precoat only requires 15 min flash so its no big deal to me. This can’t be applyed over etch either, so theirs another small downer.

    Either way, for me I can’t put a price on health. I am very impressed so far with this primer, I plan on using it on my own vehicle so I can see exactly how well it holds up.

    Another bonus….next to no smell with this primer, it has a slight smell that reminds me of children’s paint. Won’t knock your customers on the floor when they walk in!

    Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 3:27 am #10474

    [b]CLaman wrote:[/b]
    [quote]I am very confused….

    it is a waterborne primer…that needs to be wetsanded?

    I thought waterborne washed off with water?[/quote]

    I found it odd as you dry sand water basecoat when necessary. But water doesn’t effect this primer once its dry, it seems quite durable.

    Another thing interesting about this primer is it’s film build (thickness) is greater then most 2k’s.

    May 31, 2008 at 9:16 am #10476

    [b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
    Another thing interesting about this primer is it’s film build (thickness) is greater then most 2k’s.[/quote]

    Did you measure the film build, or are you just judging this visually or by feel?

    What’s the recommended film build?

    Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 5:20 pm #10481

    going by the tech sheet its suggesting 2.0-2.8 mils (dry) from 2 coats. It seemed to have a decent build to it by sanding to.

    Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 at 5:22 pm #10482

    heres thd TDS for the product if anyone wanted to have a look:

    [url]https://www.basfrefinish.com/cap_data_docs/documentum/90%20Line/Technical%20Info/English/GTME-eps-und-76-71.pdf[/url]

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