3M Polishing System
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3M Makes an excellent polishing system from their trizact discs to the swirl remover. My favorite portion of this system is:
300 Trizact Discs – I always finish my sanding with the 3000 discs to make less work for the buffer.
Waffle Pads – I am not a fan of the wool pad, my favorite method is using the white waffle pad with coarse compounds and the black waffle with finer compounds/glaze.
Cutting Creme – Depends on the mood I’m in, for bigger jobs I’ usually use the cutting creme first.
Rubbing Compound – I like this to go over the cutting creme or by itself.
Swirl Remover – Then finish them off with the black waffle pad & some swirl remover.
Now, on some solid colors the blue pad in conjuction with the Ultrafina can elimate those stubborn swirls. I know a lot of people like to burry the job in wax , temporarly hiding the problem. This way takes care of it for good.
Like all 3M products they carry a higher price tag, but this is a good polishing system that won’t let you down.
I have used everything from mothers to norton,and I have just started using a product i had never heard before. It is a polishing kit from Presta. We had a demo done a few weeks ago and it is the only product that you can polish dark colours with that do not sink back the next day or two.
Apparently this product has no fillers in the compounds and final polish. I did a black hood, wet sanded with 1000 grit and polished once only and put it out in sun and the next day there were no hint of sand scratches at all. I normally swear by 3m trizac system but this appears to be superior. I gues it comes down to preference but when I have to polish,I only want to do it once.i lke 3ms compounds but their pads suck shit in my opinion
been using Maguires for years now. Didn’t think/know there was any thing better?
We have 3m,maguires,presta,norton and 4cr obviosly we have to many people ordering stuff i had to round up all this stuff and start using it up in order to get 1 line in here. I think all of them work well it pretty much depends on the abilities of the tech using it.
I know these compounds are geared more for detailing…then they are final prep…
PoorBoys Cutting compounds: SS3 (brown), SS2.5 (purple), SS2 (blue), and Lake Country pads orange and white…is my favorite system.
sounds like ya know somthing about cutting an buffing paint their clamen do tellB) B) B) sounds similer ta the stuff im using mostly malco with some 3m mixed in:cheer:
Sure…not comfortable with rotary yet. so I’m running PC 7427 DA variable speed polisher.
Poorboys SSR 3 on Orange (~1 hour)
Poorboys SSR 2.5 on Orange (~ 1 hour)
OPTIONAL: SS2.5 on White (~1 hour)
Poorboys SSR 2 on White (~0.5 Hour)
Wolfegang Polish on White (~0.5 hour)
Wolfegang Sealent by hand. (~1 hour)I put a quarter sized amount on a damp pad, and work it on the paint until it has gone from translucent to transparent. Wipe with MF towel, and move on.
If you’re comfortable with Rotary…this stuff goes wicked fast…and works great. I’m afraid to burn through the clear which is why I shy off.
OEM you’ll burn through in no time ….. but I have never came close to going through our own clear …. it’s twice if not three times as thick as a OEM feather B) not sure how the factory can put it on so thin and still have it cover:dry: B)
[b]hiredgun wrote:[/b]
[quote]I have used everything from mothers to norton,and I have just started using a product i had never heard before. It is a polishing kit from Presta. We had a demo done a few weeks ago and it is the only product that you can polish dark colours with that do not sink back the next day or two.
Apparently this product has no fillers in the compounds and final polish. I did a black hood, wet sanded with 1000 grit and polished once only and put it out in sun and the next day there were no hint of sand scratches at all. I normally swear by 3m trizac system but this appears to be superior. I gues it comes down to preference but when I have to polish,I only want to do it once.[/quote]HMMMM this stuff sounds almost to good to be true….. back in the day you could polish black straight from 1200 without problem.
But they must be using harder resins etc now , it now seems to be a much harder polish.I must have glanced over hiredgun’s post their, i don’t remember the part about the fillers. I just learned that myself about 3M compounds. I had noticed that sometimes I would polish something and if it sat in the shop for a week or so the sandscratches would become visible again. I figured I didn’t polish it enough and just didn’t notice.
The norton rep was in talking to me today and he informed me that they don’t use fillers in their compounds either. I wasn’t aware that 3M compounds had these fillers in them even. Doesn’t sound like a good idea.
For anyone unfamiliar with fillers (as i am/was), their apparently a part of the compound that stays on the surface and eventually comes off, sounds almost like a wax I guess. They temporarily mask your scratches!!!! 3M Why ??????
just so youll keep going back ta their superduty jimmo with a wool pad of course
lol…. I’ve just gotten the presta kit in now to give a whirl… I like it better so far.
when you apply solvent based products the solvent must travel all the way through your fillers and back to the surface to escape.
the thicker your fillers , the further the travel , and the more this problem occurs
after polishing more solvents escape and sand scratches of course reappear. B)
3M recently released a new 1500 grit Trizact disc.
They also have a new compound (3M06085) which will be replacing the Extra Cut compound (3M06060).
Both are available, along with a number of other products, in a “Trial Kit”. Check with your local jobber or 3M rep.
They also put together a cool little headlight Lens Restoration Kit. Nothing amazing or new, just everything you need (including a 3″ pneumatic buffer) in a neat little carry bag. Part # is 3M02516
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