Advanced Paint Chemistry Course
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- AnonymousJune 20, 2008 at 3:47 am #10760
Anyone know if such a training course exists? As most people here are I’m sure to some existent, I am fascinated with paint chemistry. You always here people talking about crosslinking, mechanical & chemical adhesion, over-reducing, using universal hardiners, crossing paint lines….etc…
All the paint training courses I’ve attended generally don’t break this down. I’d like to see for myself the workings of the chemistry & learn exactly how it works.
I mean we all have a general idea, I just want more!!
Anyone know where I can learn about this kind of stuff aside from going to school to become a chemist?
June 20, 2008 at 4:15 am #10761I’m sure you can find some courses at a local college. Likely they will make you take the basic chem classes before the advanced ones. I took one Chem class when I was in college. I hated it, it was too early in the morning. Lab was fun, playing it stuff when you are still hung over
I do have some polymer tech education but I’d like to take a formulation or chem course specific to paint. I know they exist even in short form. If these ones were closer:
http://www.pra-world.com/training/courses.htmLarry
AnonymousJune 29, 2008 at 7:36 am #10845thanks larry,
ya, too bad their on the other side of the globe. It’s still nice to know they exist.
After painting for 20 years, I ended up working the next 15, for DuPont Performance Coatings in the “product group”.
What I found was that paint science is a [u]very[/u] deep well, that unless one wants to pursue a polymer chemist degree, it’s
best to stick with learning the ABC’s of paint compositions. For example:What is pigment? What is meant by the term “vehicle” in a paint composition?
What are binders? What are extenders? What are surfactants?
What is a dispersion?Paint science terminology, is another very interesting, but widely misunderstood area
that is fun to learn the truth about, as opposed to perceptions created by “marketing terms”.
as seen on paint cans (e.g. Polyurethane). You may want to start at “The Federation of Societies for Coatings Technology”What I was told at DuPont was to be careful because with a tiny bit of paint chemisty knowledge
it is very easy to get in over one’s head, especially if ya try to talk about it to other lay people in a shop.Obviously one does not need to know any of this to paint cars, but I think it’s great
that you have an interest in coatings science.No paint company will cover anything more than the very basics, because ya really do have to be
a chemist to put any further knowledge to use in any meaningful way. Not only that, but paint reps
themselves are not taught much beyond this, because some have been know to confuse the hell out
of themselves and customers. Chemists are very careful what they say to sales reps visiting the lab.Good luck & have fun!
AnonymousNovember 20, 2008 at 4:39 pm #11844Thanks Mikey.
I’ve got a few color chemistry books in the mail to get me going… I should probably get chemistry for dummies first..lol..
If I had enough time and money to pursue a polymer chemist degree I probably would, I’ll have to settle for a bit of learn as I go. I’ve registered at a chemistry forum too, [url]www.chemicalforums.com[/url] to try and learn a thing or two also. Its all pretty confusing but interesting, none the less. They’ve also given me a few suggestions on where to start.I didn’t figure the paint companies would really offer that, like you say it would probably just cause confusion. I don’t plan on talking about it with others at my shop, I confuse my painter trying to explain when he should or shouldn’t use a plastic primer.
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