Cromax pro

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  • January 27, 2010 at 6:21 am #18953

    Ive Been using cromax pro for about a year and a half now and i love the way its blends But one problem ive ran into from time to time is that seems the base coat wants to dry as it hits the panel. And when in the sunlight the blend areas look great but where i covered all the bodywork, new parts etc.. it stand up here and there. in the sunlight it look like primer over spray. I think it may be the high psi on the gun im spraying at 10 at the air cap which is 40psi at the wall thats what dupont suggest. And the color match is great but this small problem has become a big one on some colors. Any help from anyone would be great


    January 27, 2010 at 10:16 am #18963

    welcome ta the site :welc ya kinda lost me with your question some? can ya post some pics or explain the problem a lil better any particular colors?? also are ya bedding em with clear base or raw pnls??also what ya using for a gun?? do tell 😉

    January 27, 2010 at 6:11 pm #18965

    I used Cromax for a year or so. I can probaby help, I didn’t have any problems other than color match.

    What gun are you using?

    What tip?

    Are you using blender(2090)?

    Are you spraying blender first or in between your first coat and orientation coat?

    Are you flicking your wrist?

    Have you tried cutting your color 50/50 with 2090 mix on tough colors and blending out with it?

    What temp and humidity are your problems at?

    Do you have any slow controller?

    Do you have any of the new blender(2091)?

    Sorry for all the questions but it will help me give you a better answer.

    January 27, 2010 at 6:13 pm #18966


    January 28, 2010 at 5:14 am #18993

    Whats up ryan heres some answers to the questions

    What gun are you using? Sata 3000 hvlp

    What tip? 1.3

    Are you using blender(2090)? No it doesnt blend well i use wet bed u ever try it?

    Are you spraying blender first or in between your first coat and orientation coat? i spray wet bed do my blends first then base it out unless its a really big job. then i spray wet bed blend it then base half my job the wet bed my other blend area blend it then base the other half

    Are you flicking your wrist? No i pull my blends out works great stuff blends like a dream

    Have you tried cutting your color 50/50 with 2090 mix on tough colors and blending out with it? I only do that on Tri-coats on my last blend out coat on the white base, I dont use 2090 or 2091 dont like it, it doesnt stay wet.

    What temp and humidity are your problems at? Im in the south i notice it more when its really humid out

    Do you have any slow controller? Tryed it doesnt really work where i am at

    Do you have any of the new blender(2091)? tryed it dont like it

    Today i tryed to lower my air pressure at the wall to 37psi and i did a whole side on a gold car no problems today, Also did a few bumpers but i never had any trouble on bumpers but well see how it goes from here
    Thanks for the


    January 28, 2010 at 7:44 am #18996

    Alright, if it’s happening when the humidity is higher I think I know what your talking about. If it is over 40-50% humidity and the temp is below 85 degrees try upping the temp a little. I noticed it looking a little funny when the temp was lower and the humidity was higher. I would always use a 1.2 nozzle in a compliant gun in this situation.

    Does it kinda look like small fisheyes or black spots? Kinda like the base didn’t melt in with itself good enough.

    I would always take two guns in the booth. One with blender mix and one with basecoat. I would put my first coat of base on, spray my blender, then do my orientation coat. Worked well. We ended up switching to Autowave a couple of weeks ago. I like the coverage of Cromax but the color match left a little to be desired and I never liked how it recoated like s**t. If you had to put more base on after the 1.5 coats dried it would die back pretty bad.

    Let me know if I can help anymore!

    March 17, 2010 at 6:35 am #20199

    Ok Ive been spraying cromax waterborne for little over a year now. And i like dupont, But i think they have alot of problems with there waterborne, I just sprayed Sherwin Williams Waterborne and its like a dream up too duponts waterborne, Dupont is pushin the basecoat way too far with 1 1/2 coats. Then u cant fix any problems u have because u cant respray the basecoat without die back or if the basecoat doesnt say “wet” well it looks crazy. Im not saying that it does not work cause ive painted many jobs that look great over 35 a week but its shouldnt be that hard to fight basecoat. Just my 2 cent


    March 17, 2010 at 7:09 am #20203

    :woohoo: Im have ppg in my shop snd in my paint system we have a clear base binder that I can spray on a blend panel to help hold the blends down… In hot weather its a must to do this… other than that I will spray all panles than do as fast nib with 800 dry and blend out and clear coat… the jobs are comming out super clean now…

    March 17, 2010 at 7:40 pm #20213

    i use sikkens autowave with hs+ clear the blends and colormatch are both excellant along with their new variant system colorscala pro the 250 clear is great as well ill be switching to that clear or hs+lv in the future also switching to colorbuild plus 250 soon going all low v.o.c. autowave has got to be the best waterborne on the market tried ppg poor coverage poor match dupont good coverage very poor match not as user friendly i also think autowave is acuatly faster than autobase+ i am pretty happy with sikkens :hij:

    March 18, 2010 at 4:02 am #20218

    i have heard alot of good things about the autowave compared to all the others. just what i hear though. i have not tried it or any other wb for that matter. my neightbor is a sikkens rep and he gave me a quart or pure white autowave with the reducer so we can try airbrushing with it…….we shall see.

    March 18, 2010 at 4:43 am #20219

    I used Cromax for a year. Autowave blows it away hands down.

    March 18, 2010 at 6:00 am #20220

    Well Thanks for the reviews on the waterborne systems. Sounds like sikkiens has some nice waterborne, now trying to find a job spraying it thats the hard part. I think ive had to many dupont headaces its about time to move on

    Daniel :pcorn:

    March 18, 2010 at 6:42 am #20221

    I also hear lots of raves about Autowave. Not sure what to use when I no longer can get solvent paints: Glasurit 90 line or Autowave. (I’m a hobbyist)

    Hopefully its user friendly and works just fine in no-booth conditions. :unsure:

    Can I spray Nason clears over Autowave? How does it sand in case you get mettalics mottling or dust nibs?

    March 18, 2010 at 7:04 am #20222

    If using Autowave use Lesonal Pro-Air clear. Same price and made for non-booth consitions. Is compatable with Sikkens also.

    I have heard 90-line is a son of a b!tch if you have to sand it. Autowave sands fine.

    August 3, 2010 at 5:00 am #23493

    Man im not sure if im happy or not that i found this site. I have lots of experiance with PPG Envirobase, i love it. Now i found myself here looking for tips as my new shop is sprayng cromax, and well you guys have me slightly araid of it…lol. Is there any thing good to say about it? or should i suggest PPG to them? lol

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