Matching Metallics in the Clear

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  • April 16, 2008 at 5:27 pm #10157

    Hey guys & gals,

    I just got a red grand prix in for a front bumper, Some jackass decided to spray a coat of metallics mixed into the clearcoat over the entire vehicle.(over the factory color). I have no idea what pearl was used & how much, anyone ever had to match anything like this, help please!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

    April 16, 2008 at 5:52 pm #10159

    ???? whats the code??? is it factory ??? I’d swear some of the tri coats have color in the clear?

    April 17, 2008 at 1:08 am #10161

    🙂 I have ventured down that road- its a crappy street. My best guess would be to grab some old color books, or chips if you have them. Find some reds that might have a metallic or pearl in them, see if any of those have the orientation your looking for (metallic or pearl saturation levels). If there is any metallic in your system that looks similiar, add it in your clear (in small amounts, a little metallic goes a long way when being put in the clear) and start spraying let downs like you would a pearl white, find the desired amount of metallics you need in the clear, and spray away. Another solution is if you have a clear base toner on your rack(usually something applied before base after sealer to help color lay well) use it as to add the metallic to, and same thing, spray let downs to achieve correct level of saturation. If using clear, be careful, metallics will want to stripe, if using base with metallic for same reason, be careful because metallics wont look suspended like they do in clear. Hope this helps, good luck!:)

    April 17, 2008 at 1:26 am #10162

    Thanks for the input guys. stone- the code is WA526F. It’s kinda what I figured, doesn’t sound like fun. The hardest part I think is going to be choosing the right pearl. :silly:

    April 17, 2008 at 9:44 am #10171

    So are you saying it was cleared then with a metallic contaminated gun?? I have two guns one for metallics and one for solids as I could never clean my metallic gun clean enough to get rid of all the metallic , and there would be metallic , ever so slight , in my clear coat over solids like white and black , etc.

    April 17, 2008 at 3:50 pm #10172

    this is more then a contaminated gun, the metallics are pretty dense & consistent. Its also the whole vehicle, its definitely something that someone tryed to do. I’ll post some pictures later.

    April 17, 2008 at 4:56 pm #10174

    Theirs 2 pictures in the gallery if you want to take a look, under my gallary (Chris(painter)), page 2

    April 19, 2008 at 8:45 am #10182

    You’re basically attempting to sight match a custom tri-stage. You could easily spend a thousand hours on this and never get it right (or, you could get lucky and nail it right out of the gate). I would certainly talk to the owner of the car to attempt to see if you can get some details on who did this. Then you might be able to find out exactly what was used.

    It’s not going to be easy or fun. Might be worth it to send the job elsewhere.

    April 21, 2008 at 8:13 am #10191

    get er close a give er the ol texas blend thats all ya can do thats what i would do anyway ive had pretty good luck just doing sprayouts with different mets in my 5180 (clear base) once ya match the flake close it should be a walk in the park if ya treat it like a 3 stage ive got a freind that pulls this shit ALL the time an ive had ta fix a few he dumps junk silver in his clear for that custom look drives me fucking nuts!! but if ya treat em like a 3 stage a make your own mid coat they aint to bad once ya get the flake close any its probably a better job anyway i hate it when guys dump shit in the clear!!!a few sprayout cards dont take to long ta do look at it as a challange an treat it like its used car work an i bet ya nail it!!a sun gun kinda helps on somthing like this to;)

    April 22, 2008 at 5:47 pm #10200

    People will probably want to shoot me, but the “pimped” imports shown in my pictures in the gallery have pearl mixed with mixing clear and binder as a “home made” tri coat. It’s alot cheaper than some of the alternatives. I measure and write down the formula, and number of coats though.

    The nice thing about it is no one else will touch them when they need repair,LOL!

    Back in the day, I used to throw a teaspoon of House of Kolor flake in the first coat of clear. I always do something different on finishes, so the local DRP shop can’t touch it, and the Progressive girl can’t find it in her computer. It always ended up being a “line item” for them and would say something like “add for custom paint-10.0”.

    The picture in the gallery looked like the old “flake in clear trick” to me, but it’s kind of hard to tell. At any rate, good luck, it’s nothing a few hours of time and two hundred bucks of wasted material won’t fix, LOL!


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