S&W Compliant Solvent – att: nighthawk!!
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I just caught a tiny blurb in a bodyshop mag about a compliant solvent. With everyone in Canada about to change to waterborne, I thought this might happen. Apparently Sherwin Williams has come out with a solvent that still keeps their basecoat under a 3.5 VOC. Do you or anyone know anything about this?
Not really. Here in Chicago, we don’t have to worry about those issues yet, so, I pay little attention.
I am peripherally aware, in North America, we manufacture a number of compliant products which are sold primarily in the California and Canadian markets.
Do you recall where you saw it?
I’d be happy to talk to whomever I need to find whatever it is you’d like to know.
It is my belief, and again, I don’t pay full attention to these things at this point, all our Canadian customers are being converted over to the AWX (waterborne) line.
hehehehe fuck waterbourne:P 😛 😛 😛 ive heard of it to an am ashamed that nighthawk doesnt know about this as ive even been following this one hey hows the alt decks coming on our waterborne anyway???
this is all i could find on their site. page 21. its the dimension base not the ultra 7000
http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/media/the_finish.pdf[b]bondomerchant wrote:[/b]
[quote]hehehehe fuck waterbourne:P 😛 😛 😛 ive heard of it to an am ashamed that nighthawk doesnt know about this as ive even been following this one hey hows the alt decks coming on our waterborne anyway???[/quote]The color deck for the AWX line is out. It’s awesome compared to the colorworks box. It’s chromatic, rather than by car line, similar to some of our competitors boxes. You just go to the color you’re looking for – all the blues are here, reds, silver, etc.
If you look on page 20 at Jimmo’s link above, you can see a picture of it.
[b]ding wrote:[/b]
[quote]this is all i could find on their site. page 21. its the dimension base not the ultra 7000
http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/media/the_finish.pdf%5B/quote%5DI see. We’ve had Dimension available as either 5.0 or 3.5 as a single stage, but only 5.0 as a basecoat. The DM631 allows me to mix it as a 3.5 basecoat now.
OK… so here’s the deal…
There’s Ultra 7000 – our top line for refinishers. a lot of the cost of that product come from the R&D on color match, alternates and documentation.The next step down from Ultra 7000 is Dimension. It is sold as “For complete refinishing only” – because, while there is color match info for *most* OEM paint codes, there are no alternate choices. Additionally, there are some OEM tri-stage codes that just don’t come up in Dimension at all.
That isn’t to say there aren’t shops who don’t use Dimension as their paint line. They deal with the color match on any repairs. When they get a code that isn’t available, they just call me and have me mix them up a pint or a quart of Whatever they need.
Dimension is a pretty good product. The biggest differences between Dimension & Ultra 7000 are the color documentation, and Dimension doesn’t offer the same warranty options (whereas Ultra 7000 has a lifetime warranty – when applied by a certified painter).
Another difference is Dimension is lower in solids, thus, coverage may take another coat or two on some colors.
In the end, as with many things, the choice to use Dimension as your main paint line has to be made by doing a cost vs. benefits analysis.
Many Macco shops use a version of Dimension single stage on their complete jobs, and also have an Ultra 7000 system for doing repair work.
In my opinion, a shop doing a side by side comparison of AWX vs. Dimension, would choose AWX hands down.
i kinda figured pretty well any water lines going to beat out a solvent. But up here in Canada the regulations are changing similarly to the current California regulations.
Everybody is talking water. I’ve been expecting something like this to come out once everyone’s converted to waterborne lines. Some shops may not want to switch to water and this option hasn’t really come up. Many shops have invested in equipment and converted to water products believing its the only option. I’m curious if the other manufacturers will follow suit and a good solvent line will still be available with exempt reducers.
I personally like water better, for shops that a conversion might be too much up front for them, something like this would be great.
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