Nick M.
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I know I’m repeating myself on here but with the waterborne spies hecker hi-tec you can blend high metallic colors with your eyes closed and still have them come out right. You guys should think about switching from solvent to water. Its going to be mandatory everywhere soon probably anyway. :readthis:
No, I could get clean jobs with plastic but not consistently. I’m thinking maybe it was the brand of plastic I was using. Keystone has never really impressed me with any of their products. What brand do you guys use?
I’m I-Car and ASE certified, and to me its just paper. But that paper is mighty marketable to employers for some odd reason. The material in the tests was pretty ridiculous for both certifications. I was lucky enough to have learned most of it on the job. Some are not that lucky and might take more from it, but ultimately they are worth having. If not to expand your knowledge, then just to be more marketable to employers or even potential customers. Get your boss to pay for it and stick it on the wall in the office. lol
These guys all gave good advice. Kinda singin’ the same melody as them, but to answer a few more specific questions an infrared heat lamp can speed up drying times on primer. Also applying primer correctly will help it dry faster. Touching on what someone else said I’m a firm believer of results in the booth. Do a good job painting and you wont even have to cut and buff panels. I know you said someone else paints so you really can’t fix that. From my experience one thing other shops dread is taking in someone who’s picked up “bad habits” from another shop, but it is hard to know what is right and what is wrong when there is no one there to tell you. But I can tell you filling pinholes with primer is wrong. lol. Think about explaining your situation to some managers at other shops and trying to get into a collision shop. Good luck, its good to hear someone who wants to take pride in their work and learn. That will probably bring you farther than anything else.
I agree with Ding, straightening would have been a better repair, Not just because most of it might have came out with a push from the hand, but the corrosion “hot spots” created from welding would turn me off. But hey you got it out the door and it looks good, Plus got to try something new, Its all good. lol :cheers
I use Fusor 800ez as well, and I love it. I agree it doesn’t really seem to shrink. I was curious though about smoothing it out with water, I haven’t seen that before. One guy I work with uses thinner. I usually can get it how I want it without thinner, but maybe you could explain how you do it with water. I learn something new everyday in this business lol
Man, Jimmo is the man. lol I think you found the right guy to answer that question.
Alabama, that sounds nice right about now, its cold up here man. Whats business like down there? Up here its real busy winter months and just kinda steady in summer. Lots more rust too with the salt and such. Turns a new car into a rust bucket in no time.
Painterman1, I completely understand your view on the issue, it’s the same thing I hear from a lot of people. There are pros and cons. After using it for a small amount of time I’ve found ways to recover that initial loss of productivity. On the good side, waterborne paint complies with the new standards for VOC levels. Also it is a good marketing strategy “Going Green”. Especially in my area (Vermont) where that is the trend. For some who use the NIOSH approved respirators that only prevent 95% of volatile organic compounds from entering your lungs, It does cut down on some exposure. I’m looking in to getting a supplied air system which is what we probably should all be using if we’re planning on doing high volumes of refinish work. Over all though, after weighing the pros and cons, I would still recommend Spies Hecker Permahyde HiTec. Either way thanks for the input.
3m sun gun is a good investment, you can check your coverage in the booth. Everybody’s done it don’t feel bad.
I use the 3m PPS liners. They work very well. Being in a production shop I go through an obscene amount though lol. There is a different style for waterborne paints, the lid has a higher micron filter. I’ve found that storing Spies Hecker basecoat you can save some money by leaving lid and cap on and storing cup upside down so the filter stays saturated with the paint. As long as it’s not activated it will be reusable for a while.
I ran into this color a couple days ago. I had to replace the rear bumper on a 2013 Altima. The bumper came in raw plastic oem which I like because the paint always matches better on raw plastic. I know that sounds weird but it is true. I spray Spies Hecker Waterborne. There was only one variant and no color chips. I did a spray out card on the metal cards designed for waterborne paint. The color was very green. Spies mixture if I remember right was basically black, a small amount of blue, lilac pearl and green pearl. with a few other things like flop adjuster and binder etc.. I tinted the color a little at a time and did new sprayout cards as I went. (with clear). I ended up replaced half of the green pearl with fine white pearl. after 2 hours and various other adjustments mostly with flop adjuster and adding more lilac pearl and some other things I cant remember I got the color to match perfectly. I check my sprayouts with a 3M sungun and in regualar color adjusted light and in real sunlight. I know it sounds like a pain in the butt, but it had to be perfect, which it was when I was finished. Basically the spies hecker formula was way too green so I tinted it. it is possible because I did it lol. pain in the butt. cool looking color though.